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VGSri
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After reading a lot on forums about education related RFEs or denials during I140 Stage, thought would be helpful for forum community to track these. So anybody who received RFEs or denials please post your details and how you handled it. Please include as much details as you could so that it would be helpful for others. Details like service center, education, evaluation agency, dates and status would be very very useful.

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Got RFE - I-140: education

EB2/NSC
Bachelor - 3 years degree course from india
Total IT experience 20 years+
Evaluation done by *********, NY (Degree equivalent Baesed on academic qualification and professional experience: Master of Science in Computer Information System)

Hi folks,

I got an RFE reads as follows:

:quote:
To establish that alien is a professional holding an advance degree, you must submit:

An official academic record showing that the alien has a U.S. advanced degree (or a foreign equivalent degree); or

An official academic record showing that the alien has a U.S. baccalaureate degree (or a foreign degree), and evidence in the form of letters from the current or formal employer(s) showing that the alien has at least five years of progressive post-baccalaureate experience in the specialty.

The verbiage “foreign equivalent degree” is interpreted by the Service to mean an U.S. Bachelor’s degree or a single source, foreign degree that is equivalent to an U.S. baccalaureate degree. Unlike H1-B criterion, the aforementioned verbiage does NOT include a combination of education, training and experience that has been found to be equivalent to an U.S. baccalaureate degree.

Therefore, The ETA-750 requirement of a bachelor’s degree has not been met. The alien has three years of education, however this has not been equated to a U.S. bachelor’s degree.
:unquote:

I am stressed as to what to do with the degree part. Every suggestion is welcome. Anybody who had experience in the past – please share.

Thanks

Sunil

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Tried evaluating 3 yrs grad for US bachelors?

Not sure if it is possible, doesnt hurt to try, did you try evaluating Indian 3 years bachelors degree for US bachelors from ierf. org or wes. org? Good luck. Keep us posted.

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Good news for 3 year degree holders

Finally after extensive research I found an education eval agncy which is proven to work even with NSC RFE (As per my research NSC reportedly had more denials after RFE responses for people with 3 year foreign degree). Keep up your hope guys and try, ********.

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Hello

Thanks for the the information I am also int eh saem situation with an I140-RFE for educational qualification verification for my 3 year degree. The site mentioned looks very much postitive about this situation.

Has anyone got evaluated through this company and got their approval of I140. Please let me know.

Thanks

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there have been some successes and failures with their evaluations. I guess it all drills down to how the immigration officer understands it/ his mood and so on.....
it's not 100% guaranteed. good luck.

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RFE for 3 year degree

I have chatted with some of the people who have posted and it seems that the key to having the 3 year degree accepted is that it be correctly evaluated and backed up with substantial documentation. All the information must be identical in what it presents. There were two RFE's from the company mentioned above but in both of those cases they sent in additional evaluations that were different from the first one. The lawyers were foolish. The 3 year degrees are being accepted when the evaluator understands the 3 year degree.

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Thanks

Thats a Helpful link ...VGSri...thank you...

Raj

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I have a 3 year degree + GNIIT Diploma
Applied I140 TSC and got an RFE saying my credential evaluation was not right.
I got my Education evaluation back in 2001 and they evaluated 3 year degree + GNIIT = US Bachelors Degree.
After getting RFE i contacted lot of educ eval agencies for educ eval and no one was ready
to show 3 year + GNIIT = US Bachelors. Finally i found in this forum about ************. Finally i have decided to do education evaluation by her. She did an excellent job in showing 3 year degree as equivalent to US Bachelors degree. My case got approved in EB2 (TSC).

Its a little expensive to get the education evaluation thru her but i think its worth it (atleast in my case it was worth it). She did an excellent job. The supporting documentation was also perfect. She gave me Course by course evaluation + Expert Opinion letter + supporting documentation (250 Pages). I have sent all the documentation provided and replied to RFE.

Please do your own research on 3 year degree. This is not an advt for ********. Each case is different and nobody guarantees if this edu eval works. It worked for me and i am sharing my experiences with you just to help. Please dont make me responsible if it doesnt work in your case. Each case is different and need to consult an experienced attorney before proceeding.

If you need more info let me know i can give my contact and we can discuss.

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Does this work @ NSC? I think TSC approves anything.

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Yes it works for NSC too. ****** did evaluation for me (3 years degree in commerce from India)...

I applied in eb2 category got an RFE on 3 years degree problem.... contacted ******... very excellent evaluation from her (lots of documentation)... got approved under eb3...

Thanks ******...

Sunil

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NSC

Yes, there have been approvals at NSC. In fact since most of the denials and RFE's are from NSC then most of the evaluations have been done for NSC. Also - now all I-140's are being handled at NSC. Additionally, RFE's and denials were coming from all SC's - not only NSC. NSC is the toughest and were rejecting them more in the past - but now rejections are coming up from other SC's and, in rare instances, for previously accepted applications.

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sunil 707
can you email me the evaluation agency as i too have a similar RFE **************.com
thanks

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HI
MY labour cert says min qualification require "Bachlors". MY qulification is BSC+gniit..
I am getting it evaluated to a US Bachlors dgreee..do u think it will create aproblem in TSC
THe RFE I recieved is only" Pleae submit an evaluation of the beneficiarys academic record" .
I didnt submit any evalution...so now i m planning ot submit it thru T********..to evalute BSC+Gniit...
Please give your inputs
thanks
premon

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check with your lawyer

While each case is different, as a rule, the I-140's do not allow for combining education. They require what is called a "single-source-degee" - that is your bachelor's degree must be evaluated as equivalent to a US bachelor's degree withOUT adding your PGD.

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TSC issues denial for 3 year degree

Just this past week someone came to me with a denial that was issued in Texas (TSC) for a 3 year degree. I don't know if this is a new trend for TSC or if this was just one agents point of view. No RFE was issued - just a denial. He is filing an MTR with a new evaluation showing his 3 year degree equivalent to a US bachelor's degree.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by premon:
HI
MY labour cert says min qualification require "Bachlors". MY qulification is BSC+gniit..
I am getting it evaluated to a US Bachlors dgreee..do u think it will create aproblem in TSC
THe RFE I recieved is only" Pleae submit an evaluation of the beneficiarys academic record" .
I didnt submit any evalution...so now i m planning ot submit it thru T********..to evalute BSC+Gniit...
Please give your inputs
thanks
premon[/QUOTE]

Hi premon - you can contact me at *********DotCom...

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my 140 got approved bsc +gnitt .evaluation done by T******* NY^

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3 yrs degree + 2 yrs PGDBA

Hey Guys,

My wife has done her Bachelors of Financial and Investment Analysis from Delhi University and 2 years PGDBA (Distance Learning) from Symbiosis Institute of Distance Learning)-Deemed University.

Can anybody suggest me which category she can apply for Green Card,EB2 or EB3?

Thanks,

satija

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please help

Hi,
Here is my situation:
I worked onsite on H1 for a client A, employed by Company B. I came back to india in april 2006 and resigned.
I am in India at present and cleint A has filed my H1 on premeium but got notification for additional information. The reason stated by USCIS is as following:
According to Immigration, "the nature of the proposed duties does not appear to involve such specialization or complexity as to require the knowledge associated with the attainment of a bachelor's degree.To augment the description initially submitted, please expound on the duties, particularly the tasks that warrant the expertise of a bachelor's degree recipient.



Please submit a detailed statement articulating the beneficiary's proposed duties and day-to-day responsibilities. Please indicate the percentage of the time the beneficiary will spend performing these particular functions each day. Please indicate which specific tasks require the expertise of someone who holds a bachelor's degree and how the beneficiary's education relates to the position itself.

Attorney had submitted the required information/documents but got visa denial for same reason.
Now i recieved the following response from USCIS :

Application Type: I129 , PETITION FOR A NONIMMIGRANT WORKER

Current Status:

On June 29, 2006, this case was reopened on a USCIS motion, and the case is now in process. We will mail you a decision as soon as processing is complete. You can use our processing dates to estimate when this case will be done.

The attorney is going to hire a expert and going to reply in few days.
My questions is
1) What are my chances to get H1 approved?
2) How long generally it takes to process this kind of case(remember it is H1 on premeium).
3) What necessary steps my attorney should consider to file re appeal?

Thanks.

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3 yrs degree + 2 yrs PGDBA

If you get an evaluation agency that shows the PGDBA equivalent to a US Masters degree you should qualify for EB2.

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3 years Indian Degree Evaluation.

Hi All ,
Today i got my I140 approval from TSC after responding to RFE on 3 year degree.

I discussed the issue before applying for I140 with my attorney by reading the experiences from all in this forum.
But he said he will send the evaluation if i get RFE on my case.
But the same thing happend . got RFE saying my 3 year degree is not equal to US BS degree.
Then i Contacted ******* for my evaluation .
She was replying to my mails. Finally i paid money and sent all docs required.
Her assistent Mina never responds to mails beware of her.
But luckily i spoke to ****** on the day before my RFE deadline.
I spoke to her in the mid-night and she is so good , she has sent my Evaluation docs next day by express courier.
She is so nice. So good and so helping .
I am not a person who works for ******, this is my experience with my I140 RFE and ******.
Here i want to tell you all that, when i spoke to ****** she said the possibility of success is above 90%.Though ****** Evaluation is expensive i have choosen because i do not see any other who have communicated to us for several years on this issue. Since i have searched all the forums i have firmly dcecided to go with ******.
By god's grace my case is approved today.
I am a member here since 2005 .
I have written couple of posts today for the benefit of people whose cases can be like me.

Guys ,forgot to tell you my case is approved by TSC.I am so lucky .
So if you get an issue like this do read , contact discuss and take your decision.
All the best to all of you.
thanks
adda

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hey
congrats..
I got my EB2 I 140 approved from TSC in june 2006.I had BSC+GNIIT ..for which TSC sent me a RFE for a normal evaluation .I got a $75 evaluation form an agency in New york and got myself approved...I found ******* to be too expensive...My friends with the same qualification got approved with a normal evaluation..TSC, I know is pretty ok with the evaluation..I really dont know why you had to go thru such an expensive evaluation.. Anwyas you got your 140 approval ..congrats..
and i got my GC approved.yesterday.....

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3 year degree

Note this from the last annual conference of the American Immigration Lawyers Association (AILA) in San Antonio, Texas.

"For employment-based immigrant visa purposes (aka green card), the U.S.Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) will not equate a three-year diploma plus a post-baccalaureate diploma as being the equivalent of a U.S.
Bachelor's Degree for either EB-2 or EB-3 classification. Additionally, the USCIS does not accept a combination of academic background and work experience as being the equivalent of a U.S. Bachelor's Degree for "green card" purposes"

Some are sliding by at TSC but TSC is also denying them and some are getting approved and then denied during the 485 filing.
You are in deed very fortunate that the combinaton evaluation worked, but more and more are being denied or issued RFE's.

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is there any country's 3 years degree that is equialent to US degree. UK has 3 years degree, Canada has 3 years and so is whole Europe. what happens to them?? Never heard of UK degree being denied..why is that??

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3 year degree

The UK degrees are accepted because they have 13 years of High School. However the Israeli and several European (Bologna project degrees) have 12 years of high schools and are routinely accepted. However it has also been indicated that a 3 year degree with 12 years of HS can be considered equivalent with a detailed explanation (not a simple evaluation) of how the education itself is equivalent. This is very complex.

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"For employment-based immigrant visa purposes (aka green card), the U.S.Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) will not equate a three-year diploma plus a post-baccalaureate diploma as being the equivalent of a U.S.
Bachelor's Degree for either EB-2 or EB-3 classification. Additionally, the USCIS does not accept a combination of academic background and work experience as being the equivalent of a U.S. Bachelor's Degree for "green card" purposes"

What they are saying is they will not accept a combination, and I can understand that.

They do not say that "they will not equate 3 yr degree to a 4 yr degree in US". One can complete BS in US in 2 years if one really wants to. I think what it comes down to is no of credits. And if the B.Sc. / B.Com is exhaustive then it should be ok to equate it to a 4 yr degree.

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Why do they deny/RFE for 3 year degree during 140 process but they accept during H1 filing/transfer

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by go0dfella:
is there any country's 3 years degree that is equialent to US degree. UK has 3 years degree, Canada has 3 years and so is whole Europe.[/QUOTE]
The "whole Europe" does NOT have 3-year degrees. For example, there are no 3-year degrees in Germany, as far as I know.

[QUOTE]what happens to them?? Never heard of UK degree being denied..why is that??[/QUOTE]
The countries have agreements with the US on what constitutes equality. For my degree evaluation, the agreement was quoted in the evaluation: "According to agreement so-and-so between the US Department of Education and the Department of Education of country xyz, the candidate's degree is determined to be equivalent to a US Bachelor degree" or something like that.

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3 year degrees

In the UK and New Zealand and other countries there are 13 years of High School so the 3 year degree is routinely accepted. However the 3 year from Israel and numerous European countries with the 3 year Bologna Project degrees are preceded by 12 year high school degrees and are also accepted. However, I am not certain if they are "routinely" accepted or if they are only accepted when a detailed evaluation showing that the education is equivalent (not the number of years but the education).

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H1 vs I140

>>Why do they deny/RFE for 3 year degree during 140 process but they accept during H1 filing/transfer<<

The rules are different.
Actually if you get the right lawyer who files properly from day one, the 3 year degree will not be a problem when you get to the I140.

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I-140 got denied due to Indian 3yr bachelor's degree

My I-140 got denied due to my 3yr Indian degree. I'm tring to file MTR now. I got my education re-evaluated now from ****** ***** (The only famous one on the net for this kinda issue). All those of you (particulary member 'p766) who have successfully got your I-140 approved because of ****** *****'s report, please share me with your receipt number because my attorney feels that would be of more support for my situation. I'll be so thankful to you. Its going to be of great timely help for me to win this struggle. You can email me that info to *****

Thanks in advance.

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What does your labor certification say about the job requirement? Does it say the requirement is a 4 years Bachelor's Degree? Does it have any annotation saying that a combination of education will be accepted.

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I-140 got denied due to Indian 3yr bachelor's degree

Thanks for your response. The job requirement just says Bachelor's under college degree required box.

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In this case, USCIS expects the candidate to have a single 4 year degree. They will not accept 3 year degree plus 1 (or 2 ) years diploma or degree as equivalent to a 4 year degree.

You may get an evaluation equating your 3 year degree to be equivalent to a US 4 year degree. This should give some life to your petition.

Good luck.

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Hey Premon - Can you please email me the name of the service you used in NY ? My email is joe_k1976 at ***********.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by premon:
hey
congrats..
I got my EB2 I 140 approved from TSC in june 2006.I had BSC+GNIIT ..for which TSC sent me a RFE for a normal evaluation .I got a $75 evaluation form an agency in New york and got myself approved...I found ******* to be too expensive...My friends with the same qualification got approved with a normal evaluation..TSC, I know is pretty ok with the evaluation..I really dont know why you had to go thru such an expensive evaluation.. Anwyas you got your 140 approval ..congrats..
and i got my GC approved.yesterday.....[/QUOTE]

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3 year degree

[QUOTE]Originally posted by premon:
I got my EB2 I 140 approved from TSC in june 2006.I had BSC+GNIIT ..for which TSC sent me a RFE for a normal evaluation .I got a $75 evaluation form an agency in New york and got myself approved...I found ********** to be too expensive...My friends with the same qualification got approved with a normal evaluation..TSC, I know is pretty ok with the evaluation..I really dont know why you had to go thru such an expensive evaluation.. Anwyas you got your 140 approval ..congrats..
and i got my GC approved.yesterday.....[/QUOTE]

The combination degree evaluation still gets approved at TSC some of the time, but at NSC it never gets approved and at TSC they are starting to reject them. The best way is to have the 3 year evaluated as equivalent to a us bach degree.

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Hi Premon,

Could you give me name of the evalutaion agency in NY. I am from NYC. My I-140 has been submitted with NSC.This is just a precuationary measure. I got my evalutaion done by a NY firm so wanted to make sure that it is the same.*********corp. Pls reply to my email address oR post it on the forum.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by premon:
hey
congrats..
I got my EB2 I 140 approved from TSC in june 2006.I had BSC+GNIIT ..for which TSC sent me a RFE for a normal evaluation .I got a $75 evaluation form an agency in New york and got myself approved...I found ************ to be too expensive...My friends with the same qualification got approved with a normal evaluation..TSC, I know is pretty ok with the evaluation..I really dont know why you had to go thru such an expensive evaluation.. Anwyas you got your 140 approval ..congrats..
and i got my GC approved.yesterday.....[/QUOTE]

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Hi

[QUOTE]Originally posted by premon:
my 140 got approved bsc +gnitt .evaluation done by T******* NY^[/QUOTE]

Premon, Can i get your contact info? i am in a similar situation, wanted to get your input.

Thanks
ng

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Hi Premon,

Please email me the name of the evaluation company in NY.Pls confim if it is Trustforte any way>
Thanks,
Manish



[QUOTE]Originally posted by premon:
sunil 707
can you email me the evaluation agency as i too have a similar RFE **************.com
thanks

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hi maninnj,

Please comtact me at******at the same user id as in this forum.

Sunil

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3 year degree evaluation

Sunil,

I sent you an IM and email to your id but did not receive any response. Please send me an email, my email id is in my profile. If you could add your email ID in your profile, I can get in touch with you as well.

Thanks,

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by go0dfella:
is there any country's 3 years degree that is equialent to US degree. UK has 3 years degree, Canada has 3 years and so is whole Europe. what happens to them?? Never heard of UK degree being denied..why is that??[/QUOTE]

In Europe a Bachelor in 'Computer Science' is 5 years.

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3 year European degees approved

The 3 year European degrees are routinely approved whether they have secondary school until grade 11, 12, or 13. I, personally, have only seen RFE's and Denials for 3 year degrees from India, Pakistan, and Israel.

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What did your PERM require Maninnj? Did it ask a masters or BS+5?

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Prince ny 2000

Mine was RIR and it was filed as BS+2YRS.

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Alright so its an EB3 case.

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My I-140 (EB3) got approved recently without any RFE from NSC. I have a 3 year degree from India. Education evaluation was not submitted with I-140 application.

Thus if the LC application and advertisements are properly phrased, then even 3 year degree holders can get approvals without the need to prove that a 3 year degree from India is equivalent to 4 years US degree.

Good luck to all of you.

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do it right from the start

If the ad and the labor are properly worded in the first place there should be no problem getting a 3 year degree approved for EB3. For EB2 or when the labor is not properly worded then, and only then, do you need to show your 3 year degree, on its own, equivalent to a US bachelor's degree.

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Hi Premon

Hi Premon,

I am travelling on the same boat. MY i140 got denied due to Bachelor's 3 year degree + NIIT. Can you please give the evaluation agency in new york.

Thanks in adavace. Appreciate your help



[QUOTE]Originally posted by premon:
HI
MY labour cert says min qualification require "Bachlors". MY qulification is BSC+gniit..
I am getting it evaluated to a US Bachlors dgreee..do u think it will create aproblem in TSC
THe RFE I recieved is only" Pleae submit an evaluation of the beneficiarys academic record" .
I didnt submit any evalution...so now i m planning ot submit it thru T********..to evalute BSC+Gniit...
Please give your inputs
thanks
premon[/QUOTE]

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am travelling on the same boat. Here is my case...

My prioprity date is Jan 2004 under EB-3 and still the labour is pending from New york(Philadelphia Backlog Center), its in DATA REVIEW. I have done my Bachelor of Science with Maths( 3 years) with GNIIT(2 years). In mean time my employer had a Pre approved labour with priority date Nov, 2001 and they filed the I140 in premium and it got denied straight away. The 15 and 14 column in the Pre approved labour says Bachelors in Maths, Comp Science, Engineering or equivalent. The education evalution says the same as "equivalent of an individual with a Bachelor of Science Degree in Comuputer Science from an accrediate college or university in the united states". So what does the equivalent means when the immigration defines it ?

My orginal filed labour is still in process but i does have the same problem and my lawyers fears that even if we file the I140 even that would be denied using the same case above. My Lawyer says she will do a perm with my Masters as i completed my Masters in June 2006 and as well as appeal for the denied case.Can you guys please suggest me the best evalutaion agencies, i was going through all of yours replies, just came across the NY evaluation agencies, can you guys please send me the name, is it trustforte..pelease help me..

I am in the 7th year extension and my H1 is going to expire in 4 months, what are my options?



Thanks in advance and your replies are apprecaited

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I guess you either got evaluation based upon your combined BS plus GNIIT OR BS plus years of experience. Try getting an evaluation (equal to US BS) based upon a single source degree without combining or adding your experience in it. If you click on my ID you'll get my mail address and I can tell you where to get from.

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Hey guys

I just received an RFE on my I140 EB2 from Nebraska and was wondering if someone here can guide me as to what my next step should be:

Here is what my RFE says:

"At the time of filing Form 1-140, the petitioner submitted a copy of the beneficiary's Bachelor of Commerce Degree (3 years) and a copy of a Post Graduate Degree (2 years). The 3 years bachelor degree and the 2 year Post Graduate Degree equates to a Bachelor's Degree in the US.
Please submit evidence that the alien obtained the required 6 years experience in the job offered before August 15, 2006."

I am surprised that they combined my degrees even though i submitted an evaluation which clearly states that my 3yr degree is equal to a bachelors and my pgdm is equal to a masters.

i am wondering what to do, and here are 2 options i am thinking of

1. I have worked for a Big4 Accounting firm for about 3 years in India (After my b.com but before my mba) - does that count? Will they consider that while counting my 6yrs work experience?

2. I did submit an evaluation which shows that my b.com is equal to bachelors and my mba is equal to a masters, but looks like they didnt really consider that...can i now submit a fresh evaluation done by ***** ****** which is a lot more detailed and can show that my mba is really equal to a masters?

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance for reading and i would really really appreciate some guidance here!!!

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Will USCIS send RFE for EB2 if my degrees are
* 3 Years B.Sc (Mathematics, Physics, Chemistry) followed by
* 3 Years Masters in Computer Applications
followed by
* 4 years 10 months work experience in IT

Just wanted to know my chances for EB2 so that I can file for another EB2 based on current experience to get priority date before my H1B 5 year reaches.

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RFE From Tx Center

Hey Fellow sympathizer's

I got a RFE from the Tx Center for my I-140 stating that my B.Com from india doesnt evaluate to a 4 yeas US Degree. Thanks to the input of some of the kind souls on this site i contacted ******* and they replied saying that they could handle my case. I need to talk to a few ppl from this forum who have already dealt with ******* on how they went about their cases and what was the $$$ they paid. I am very eager to get some information from people who have dealt with that company. Any help will be so appreciated.
My id at ***********.

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3 year degree

You should ask for references. There are some letters right on that website.

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Sunil,

I have 3 years degree in commerce from India)...
and Advance Diploma in Hotel Management from Australia, Do you think I add this two certificates and get four years US?

I have applied for I 140 Nibraska, they send me RFA becz my lawyer didn't send my 2006 w2 and employers 2006 tax returns.

I am little bit worried that they are going to Consider
3 years degree in commerce from India....Please let me, who did your evalation.


Thanks for your help
[QUOTE]Originally posted by sunil707:\


Yes it works for NSC too. ****** did evaluation for me (3 years degree in commerce from India)...

I applied in eb2 category got an RFE on 3 years degree problem.... contacted ******... very excellent evaluation from her (lots of documentation)... got approved under eb3...

Thanks ******...

Sunil

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Want to know the Agency you mentioned in NY who does Eval for $75

[QUOTE]Originally posted by premon:
sunil 707
can you email me the evaluation agency as i too have a similar RFE **************.com
thanks

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NOTICE OF INTENT TO DENY - EB2 / ACADAMIC EVALUATION

LIST OF MY PROBLEMS IN NOTICE OF INTENT TO REPLY::::

AS per TRUSTFORTE EVALUATION done in 2001, I have MASTER OF BUSINESS ADMIN + BACHELOR OF SCIENCE DEGREE IN MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEMS?
--------------------------------------------

1#Section 14-Form ETA 750- Requires at least MBA degree,with specilization in mgmt.

2# Three Years Bachelor in commerce (Delhi Univ) + Professional Diploma in software technology & system mgmt (NIIT). Problem of combining degree and diploma?

3# NIIT - Is it accredited by GOVT. of INDIA to give college level qualifications?

4# 2 year Full Time PGDBM, Is it accredited by GOVT. of INDIA to give college level qualifications?
(it is actually accredited by Govt. of India)

5# No proof that graduate-level coursework was completed for a US MBA Program?

6# DUE DATE OF NOTICE OF INTENT TO REPLY JULY 20 ?????

I will really appreciate your help !

4.5 years experience before joining current job. 6 years aditional experience till now. total 10.5 years experience. BUT DOES EXPERIENCE COUNT?

Thank you so much..

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GNIIT is just a certificate course and not an accrediated university degree.

Only AICTE approved institutes offer degree in engineering, CS and CE.

you can equate any indian qualification from india using some she laa dancing kind of evaluator to please USCIS.

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I have a 3 year Degree Bsc from India with over 10 years of experience. Filed EB2 labor substituion with Texas SSC on July 1st 2007.
Doesn anyone know the success rate in a situation like me?

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I've 3yr degree + PGDCA(university)with 10 yrs of IT experience
My labor is approved under PERM in EB2 but got RFE for 140 abt degree equiv...Responded to RFE waiting for response...

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Hi 140 Struck,

Can you please let me know details about your 140?

what service centre?
what is your education and experience requirements on labor?



Thanks in advance

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140Struck,

Did you labor say the word Equivalent?
What service centre?

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what service centre?
==> Nebraska
what is your education and experience requirements on labor
==> BS or equivalent

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All GURUS,

Below is My situation :

My Labor said : Bachelors or Equivalent

My Education : 3 yrs commerce degree from India + 2 yr MS( Inofmration systems ) from USA + 1 yr ( US diploma)..

Application sent to : NSC

Also with my 1-140 , i submitted a old education evaluation that was done before starting my masters program.


My question here is what are the chances of me getting a RFE ?? IS ANYONE IN MY SITUATION
Thank You

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3 Year Degree Evaluation

Adda,
Can you please let me know where you have been for the evaluation?

My case is a substitution EB3 case and filed I140 in march and recevied RFE on Evaluation.

I'm holding a 3 years degree from India + NIIT. I know they don't considering it any more. wanted to know the best evaluation company to evaluate my case.

Thanks in advance,

Your help is appreciated,
A1P6

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Evaluation Agencies

There is no "best" agency. What you need to do is discuss your case with the agency before you order and make sure they have experience in your situation.
You can also do a search for
three Year degree
etc., and learn what you can.

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3 Year Degree Evaluation

Hi
I have done my Evaluation from *******.But it was expensive . I paid around $950 a year back.
But i do not know how much they are charging.

Talk to them and take a decision.
Sucess always depnds on our luck and situation prevaling currently.

there is a talk that ******* is black listed.
Please make sure of that before you go for it.
I am not sure.

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need to contact you

pleasse email me at ******** i need to discuss with you about your eval thing. i have RFE on the same



[QUOTE]Originally posted by p76:




I have a 3 year degree + GNIIT Diploma
Applied I140 TSC and got an RFE saying my credential evaluation was not right.
I got my Education evaluation back in 2001 and they evaluated 3 year degree + GNIIT = US Bachelors Degree.
After getting RFE i contacted lot of educ eval agencies for educ eval and no one was ready
to show 3 year + GNIIT = US Bachelors. Finally i found in this forum about ************. Finally i have decided to do education evaluation by her. She did an excellent job in showing 3 year degree as equivalent to US Bachelors degree. My case got approved in EB2 (TSC).

Its a little expensive to get the education evaluation thru her but i think its worth it (atleast in my case it was worth it). She did an excellent job. The supporting documentation was also perfect. She gave me Course by course evaluation + Expert Opinion letter + supporting documentation (250 Pages). I have sent all the documentation provided and replied to RFE.

Please do your own research on 3 year degree. This is not an advt for ********. Each case is different and nobody guarantees if this edu eval works. It worked for me and i am sharing my experiences with you just to help. Please dont make me responsible if it doesnt work in your case. Each case is different and need to consult an experienced attorney before proceeding.

If you need more info let me know i can give my contact and we can discuss.

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USCIS is taking a much harder stance regarding evaluations of any education and in particular the evaluation of a three year foreign degree to a four year USA degree.

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I140 - 3 Years Bachelors

Here is background info: For a candidate with 3 years bachelors of science(BSc) from India, 6 years US experience and 5 years India experience in same skills.

I-140 has: EB3 since no distinction between Professional and Skilled worker category, but expectation is USCIS should consider it as skilled worker.

Perm Labour specifies:
4. Education minimum level reqd: Bachelor's
4B. Computers
5. Is training REQD: NO
6. Experience : Yes 24 months
7. Is alternate study field accpt? Yes
Science, Math, Engg or related field
8. Is an alternate combination of education and experience accepted? Yes
8-A. Alternate level of education: Other
8-B. Bachelors equivalent based on any suitable combination of education and work experience
8-C. Experience acceptable: 3 years
9. Is foreign educational equivalent acceptable? YES
10. Is experience in alternate occupation acceptable? YES - 24 months

Questions:
Which category will USCIS accept this application, Professional or Skilled Worker ?

What are chances of approval?

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by p76:
I have a 3 year degree + GNIIT Diploma
Applied I140 TSC and got an RFE saying my credential evaluation was not right.
I got my Education evaluation back in 2001 and they evaluated 3 year degree + GNIIT = US Bachelors Degree.
After getting RFE i contacted lot of educ eval agencies for educ eval and no one was ready
to show 3 year + GNIIT = US Bachelors. Finally i found in this forum about ************. Finally i have decided to do education evaluation by her. She did an excellent job in showing 3 year degree as equivalent to US Bachelors degree. My case got approved in EB2 (TSC).

Its a little expensive to get the education evaluation thru her but i think its worth it (atleast in my case it was worth it). She did an excellent job. The supporting documentation was also perfect. She gave me Course by course evaluation + Expert Opinion letter + supporting documentation (250 Pages). I have sent all the documentation provided and replied to RFE.

Please do your own research on 3 year degree. This is not an advt for ********. Each case is different and nobody guarantees if this edu eval works. It worked for me and i am sharing my experiences with you just to help. Please dont make me responsible if it doesnt work in your case. Each case is different and need to consult an experienced attorney before proceeding.

If you need more info let me know i can give my contact and we can discuss.

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If an LC says the degree requirement is a Bachelor's degree without any qualifying language, and the sponsored person has a three year Bachelor's degree, USCIS will not automatically grant any classification, even as a skilled worker.

USCIS starts from the premise that a 3 year degree is not equal to a 4 year degree. The only limited exceptions to this may be when the U.S. Government and the country awarding the 3 year degree are parties to a binding agreement between them to recognize them as equal OR if the educational system is structured so that there is a 13th year of education before starting university.

The most important point to keep in mind regarding the issue of "education" and "degrees" is that this is a fluid and hot issue about which very few assumptions should be made. Careful consideration is always important.

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Thanks Attorney_15.

I think LCA does have bachelors qualifying language:

8-B. Bachelors equivalent based on any suitable combination of education and work experience

Also I have given all relative information on LCA.

What do you think then category will be professional or skilled?

And what are chances of approval?

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I-140 pain in wrong place @ NSC

In my ETA 750, in column 14 it says:

College Degree Required : Bachelors (nothing else)

Major field of study : Computer science or related field.(nothing else)

Experience : 1 yr.

Did Not mention 4 years College degree.

My file is @ NSC.

How bad is it looking for Denial ? Any guess !!!

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Question to Ayappa on RFE approval.

I have the same RFE and submitted the required credentials and waiting for response from USCIS. I would apperciate if you can let me know as how much did it take to get approval for you. I have replied to RFE and waiting for past 4+ months.

Thanks

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Evaluations from south of America

Any ideia about evaluations from south of America (Brazil)? any denials?

Eb-3
3 years-degree (Computer Science)
I140 RFE on Education
NSC Center

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3 year degrees

All three year degrees are at risk now. Even UK. A good attorney, Expert evaluation letters and some luck are needed.

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Please, please, urgent! Can someone email me the name of the evaluation company referred to in the above discussion?

My email address is *********

Thank you in advance.

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My I-140 approved

Lasy year I received intent to deny my I-a40 due to my education. Then we completed our evaluation through **********. On 26th Apr'08 I recieved my approval for I-140,EB2 from TSC.

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easygoer,

may i know what was your education..

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My education

I am a Chartered Accountant form India. Have done CPA and CISA from USA. But ********** reviewed my CA equivalent to masters in USA(as one degree evaluation requires)and they accepted it.

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congratulations easygoer

Easygoer - this is good to hear. Good luck to you!

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Hope this helps

Immigration Appeals Court Approves EB2 case for an individual with a 3 year degree
04

Mar

Posted by: Michael Hammond in: H-1(b) News

The AAO, one of the Courts of Appeals in the immigration system, recently approved an EB2 I-140 for an individual with a full MS degree that had been attained following a 3 yr. Bachelor’s program. This is a major victory as the USCIS Service Center (particularly the Nebraska Service Center) had been issuing denials in such cases and had in fact, created their own policy, commonly referred to as the “6 year rule”, requiring that an individual have 6 years of education to gain EB2 approval when using the Masters degree standard. In the AAO decision, the Court ruled that if a credible education evaluator evaluates the Masters degree as the equivalent of a US Masters degree that the preceding education is not relevant. We praise the AAO for its decision striking down yet another, in a long line of Service Center policies that have no basis in any statute or regulation but, are simply overreaching examples of a bureaucracy run amok. It is not believed that there will be in effect on EB2 cases where the basis of the labor certification is a Bachelor’s plus 5 years of experience and the individual holds a 3 year bachelor’s degree. It should also be noted that the Service Centers routinely choose not to follow AAO decisions and your individual case may need to be litigated in order to achieve the desired result.

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3+2

Keep in mind that this is not precedent setting and will be decided on a case by case basis. The attorney needs to read the ACTUAL case and not a website summary. In the AAO decision the attorney had submitted three evaluations showing that the Indian 2-year masters was equivalent to a US masters so we recommend that this is done as well.

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please send me an email ********** with the company's name. I am also looking for an education evaluaton for my RFE.

Thanks,
Sekhar

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EB2 - Masters

Hello,

I got RFE on I-140 EB2 to submit my edu evaluation

I have Bsc (3 yrs) and Masters, MCM (2 Years).
My LC needs "Masters" and in Major field of study says "Computer mgt or foreign equivalent".

Does anyone gone through same situation?
In this forum I do see ppl did post for "Bachelors" degree eval. Anybody for "Masters" evaluation RFE?

Could you please share your experiences.

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Masters

Each case is different but when you have a 3+2 and need an equivalency to a masters degree a good evaluation and an attorney who writes a strong motion should get you an approval.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by easygoer:
I am a Chartered Accountant form India. Have done CPA and CISA from USA. But ****** reviewed my CA equivalent to masters in USA(as one degree evaluation requires)and they accepted it.[/QUOTE]

That's Great! I am in a similar situation. I too am a Chartered Accountant from India with CISA. Is this evaluation done by *******?

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It was done by *********.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by easygoer:
It was done by ***********.[/QUOTE]

Thanks easygoer, for the information. I sent my docs for pre-evaluation to Shiela. Can you please let me know what was your query, labor requirement and education?

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Can you please provide the name of the education eval agency you suggested below - you can send me a PM.

Thanks,
DS.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by VGSri:
Finally after extensive research I found an education eval agncy which is proven to work even with NSC RFE (As per my research NSC reportedly had more denials after RFE responses for people with 3 year foreign degree). Keep up your hope guys and try, ********.

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BSC+GNIIT

Hi Premon,

My case seems to be very similar to that of yours. My attorney wants to file under EB2 category; but she thinks that BSC+GNIIT will not qualify for equivalent US Bachelors degree. Can you please provide some guidance in this issue as you had success in the past. I understand past success doesnt automatically guarantee anything, but any suggestions would be helpful.

Regards,
Jagadish

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Need Eval company details

Hi ssting59 or easygoer:
I have a similar eval query - can you send me ***********'s contact details so that I can send my case to her? Thanks... You can send me an email.

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sunil707 and others..

I have a similar RFE (3 year bachelors).
Kindly let me know the name of the evaluators that can help me.

It will be great if you can email me the details at my ***** id which is same as my id on this forum.

Thanks a lot!!

AT

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I140 rfe on education

Guys,

my employer did a labour substitution and filed my case under eb3, as i have 3 yrs indian degree(Bsc) with 5 yrs plus experience. But there is a query on my cases on my education as my total education is 15 yrs then 16, please guide me how can i over come this issue.

Thanks a lot in advance.

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Hello p76,
Can I know where did you got evaluated, I to got same RFE, any help will be greatful.


I can be reached at 10dulkars1@*****.com


Thanks,

dulkars


[QUOTE]Originally posted by p76:
I have a 3 year degree + GNIIT Diploma
Applied I140 TSC and got an RFE saying my credential evaluation was not right.
I got my Education evaluation back in 2001 and they evaluated 3 year degree + GNIIT = US Bachelors Degree.
After getting RFE i contacted lot of educ eval agencies for educ eval and no one was ready
to show 3 year + GNIIT = US Bachelors. Finally i found in this forum about ************. Finally i have decided to do education evaluation by her. She did an excellent job in showing 3 year degree as equivalent to US Bachelors degree. My case got approved in EB2 (TSC).

Its a little expensive to get the education evaluation thru her but i think its worth it (atleast in my case it was worth it). She did an excellent job. The supporting documentation was also perfect. She gave me Course by course evaluation + Expert Opinion letter + supporting documentation (250 Pages). I have sent all the documentation provided and replied to RFE.

Please do your own research on 3 year degree. This is not an advt for ********. Each case is different and nobody guarantees if this edu eval works. It worked for me and i am sharing my experiences with you just to help. Please dont make me responsible if it doesnt work in your case. Each case is different and need to consult an experienced attorney before proceeding.

If you need more info let me know i can give my contact and we can discuss.

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Bachelors equivalent based on any suitable combination of education and work experience

My I-140 denied yesterday. No RFE nothing straight denial. Waiting for denial notice yet. I suspect it is due to the language used as following:
Bachelors equivalent based on any suitable combination of education and work experience

I think Bachelor's can not be equated with education + experience.

Can attorney and experts please help here? Can Bachelor's be equated with Indian 3 year degree + experience? If not is there any way to defend such case using MTR? And what documents or supporting information is required to send woth MTR in such case? I would like to prepare before hand.

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